Comments on: Reasons to commit suicide: Part 3 http://themaddentist.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/reasons-to-commit-suicide-part-3/ An NHS Dentist destroyed by the NHS (Anything in blue is a link) Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:10:37 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: themaddentist http://themaddentist.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/reasons-to-commit-suicide-part-3/#comment-1495 themaddentist Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:06:45 +0000 http://themaddentist.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/reasons-to-commit-suicide-part-3/#comment-1495 but often, it appears, they “know” before we talk How true and then they only listen to what they want to hear. Thanks for the kind words Calum but often, it appears, they “know” before we talk How true and then they only listen to what they want to hear.
Thanks for the kind words Calum

]]> By: CalumCarr http://themaddentist.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/reasons-to-commit-suicide-part-3/#comment-1494 CalumCarr Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:02:54 +0000 http://themaddentist.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/reasons-to-commit-suicide-part-3/#comment-1494 Oh Alyn! What a shitty mess! Not listening is one thing that really gets to me. The only way clinicians can learn about us is to listen but often, it appears, they "know" before we talk and so our words sail past them to our detriment. When we learn that "they" are not listening we feel utter hopelessness and helplessness. What more can we do if "they" won't listen? If "they" won't listen then "they" certainly won't read a letter properly. The cycle of trying to convince followed by rejection is a cycle downwards. However badly you are/ feel you have done very well, in the circumstances, to be still talking to us. Don't stop talking to us, Alyn. Thinking of you. Oh Alyn!

What a shitty mess!

Not listening is one thing that really gets to me. The only way clinicians can learn about us is to listen but often, it appears, they “know” before we talk and so our words sail past them to our detriment.

When we learn that “they” are not listening we feel utter hopelessness and helplessness. What more can we do if “they” won’t listen? If “they” won’t listen then “they” certainly won’t read a letter properly.

The cycle of trying to convince followed by rejection is a cycle downwards.

However badly you are/ feel you have done very well, in the circumstances, to be still talking to us.

Don’t stop talking to us, Alyn.

Thinking of you.

]]> By: themaddentist http://themaddentist.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/reasons-to-commit-suicide-part-3/#comment-1493 themaddentist Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:10:41 +0000 http://themaddentist.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/reasons-to-commit-suicide-part-3/#comment-1493 doing you a favour : Spot on Deb, cos that is EXACTLY what I think. All I wanted was &^$$£ treatment to get well and back to work! Spot on Deb, cos that is EXACTLY what I thought. you are so right, support was probably what we all needed , thats all maybe? doing you a favour : Spot on Deb, cos that is EXACTLY what I think.

All I wanted was &^$$£ treatment to get well and back to work! Spot on Deb, cos that is EXACTLY what I thought.

you are so right, support was probably what we all needed , thats all maybe?

]]> By: Deb Acle http://themaddentist.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/reasons-to-commit-suicide-part-3/#comment-1491 Deb Acle Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:09:46 +0000 http://themaddentist.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/reasons-to-commit-suicide-part-3/#comment-1491 Nightmares are horrid - they can leave you feeling like *^$%^& for several days. Reading that letter and the comp slip, I wonder if Dr A thought he was doing you a favour by retiring you? I have a similar experience: after brain attack GP came to see me and suggested early retirement. Even in very cognitively deficient state I was very surprised. All I wanted was &^$$£ treatment to get well and back to work! Sounds like that's exactly what you needed, some med practitioner to REALLY listen and support you through the breakdown (?) so that you could get back to work asap. (Dr A saw you 'about every 6 weeks'?! That's support??!) This seems to be far beyond the imagination of some doctors and certainly beyond the NHS. Nightmares are horrid – they can leave you feeling like *^$%^& for several days.

Reading that letter and the comp slip, I wonder if Dr A thought he was doing you a favour by retiring you? I have a similar experience: after brain attack GP came to see me and suggested early retirement. Even in very cognitively deficient state I was very surprised. All I wanted was &^$$£ treatment to get well and back to work!

Sounds like that’s exactly what you needed, some med practitioner to REALLY listen and support you through the breakdown (?) so that you could get back to work asap. (Dr A saw you ‘about every 6 weeks’?! That’s support??!)

This seems to be far beyond the imagination of some doctors and certainly beyond the NHS.

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